Wednesday, December 16, 2009
Chapters 21-24
In chapter 21, Hawthorne describes the crowd gathered for the holiday and speaks of the two groups of "barbarians." What two groups are these and which group does he describe as "wilder"? Note the relation of these groups to the choices Dimmsdale has before him at the end of chapter 17. What might this say about Hester's and Dimmesdale's choice?
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The two groups are sailors and Native Americans. He points out the Native Americans are "wilder" because they are far off the main idea of the society, which adds more suspension to the social life there. The choice they are making is not based off of they way they have been living their lives as Puritans. Its against their rulings and now they are "basing" their lives like Native Americans do so.
ReplyDeleteThe two groups called "barbarians" were the sailors and Native Americans. However, the Native Americans were considered "wilder" they do not hold the main idea of society which adds suspense to their social life. The decision which they make are not based on their Puritan ways. It goes against their rulings and the way they live their lives.
ReplyDeleteThe two groups of "barbarians" are sailors and Native Americans. He says that the Native Americans are "wilder" because they lead completely different lives than the Puritans did. Dimmesdale is related to this group at the end of chapter 17 because he is no longer living his life like a Puritan, instead he is acting on impulse. This shows that Hester and Dimmesdale's choice is both wrong and sinful in the eyes of the Puritans.
ReplyDeleteThese two different groups that he was describing were the sailors, and the Native Americans, which he suggest are wilder due to the fact that they are not really the average, or not more "mainstream". I think the choice that they were making was whether or not to live their lives as the good Puritans they are, but more like the Native Americans, who supposedly have nothing to do with the Puritan way of life.
ReplyDeleteThe two "barbarian groups" were the Indians and Sailors. The Sailors he describes as "wilder". The relation they have with the choices Dimmesdale has before him are to hide in the wilderness where the Indians live or go across sea like the Sailors do. Since she referenced to them as wild, you would think that choice to do as these groups do would be wild. They are running away from the puritan culture. Unless these "wild groups" aren't so wild after all maybe there right? And these puritans are the "wild" ones.
ReplyDeleteFYI:"Nor, wild as were these painted barbarians, were they the wildest feature of the scene. This distinction could more justly be claimed by some mariners,—a part of the crew of the vessel from the Spanish Main,—who had come ashore to see the humors of Election Day." quoted from page 179 of the book this simply means the indians were not as wild as the sailors.
The two groups which are described as "barbarians" are the Indians and Sailors. However, the Indians are described as the more wild of the two because of their elaborate clothing and lifestyle. These two groups represent the choices Dimmesdale has before him. He can choose to run away from the Puritans by escaping to an indian villiage or sail across the sea with Sailors to Europe. The decision the couple has made is completely against Puritan morals because they are running away from their sin.
ReplyDeleteThe "Barbarian Groups" were known as the Indians and the Sailors. The Indians were known to be more "wilder" because they didn't have the same values, and didn't follow the same restrictions that the puritans did. The decision made by Hester and Dimmesdale, is not that of Puritan values, but those of the American Indians.
ReplyDeleteThe two types of groups are native americans and sailors. They called the natice americans more wild because their way of life does not go long with the way of the puritans. Hester and Dimmesdales choice goes against puritan life also to where they are acting "wild" like the native americans.
ReplyDeleteThe two groups Hawthorne speaks of are the sailors and the native americans. he states that the indians or native americans are the wilder of the two. The relationship is that Dimmesdale realizes he is not livin a true puritan filled life. This might say that their relationship was phony and was never going to last and they lacked their moral values.
ReplyDeleteThe two groups were the Native Americans and the Sailors. The native americans were "wilder". The relationship is similar to the ones Dimmesdale has in front of him. Such as hiding like the indians do in the indian village or going across the ocean with the sailors to Europe. Native Americans aren't known to be living the Puritan way of life, nor is Dimmesdale. This would say that Dimmesdale's and Hester's choice is out of line and going against their Puritan upbringing. Once again they are being sinful whether they realize it or not.
ReplyDeleteThe Barbarian groups Hawthorne mentions are the Native Americans and the sailors. The Native Americans described as "wilder" because they did not conform to the Puritan lifestyle. Hester and Dimmesdale relate to this because like the Native Americans they also did not comform. Hester and Dimmesdale's choice is boldly against the law and they are accepting that God forgives all sins.
ReplyDeleteThe groups that are described as “barbarians” are the Indians and Sailors. The Indians are said to be the “wild” ones, because of their unique lifestyle and clothing they wear. I believe the two barbarian groups link to the things Hester and Dimmesdale could do. They could either run away with the Indians or sail away to Europe and live there. Hester and Dimmesdale’s decision is against all the morals that the Puritans have, they are running away from the sin they have committed.
ReplyDeleteThe two barbarian groups are the Sailors and the Indians. The Indians were described as wilder because they didn't share the same values as the Puritans did. They relate to Hester and Dimmesdale's decision because the Indians don't follow the Puritan code and neither did they by making the decision to run away to Europe.
ReplyDeleteThe Indians and the Sailors are the two groups that are mentioned by Nathaniel Hawthorn in this novel. He says the Indians are more savage, because they are not civilized, and the Sailors live much closer to the puritan lifestyle. The Indians are wild, free and could not be controlled by the Puritans, just like Hester and Dimmesdale hope for. There end choice is what they belive is right in gods eyes and dont worry about the views of the puritan society.
ReplyDeleteThe "barbarian groups" consist of the Indians and the Sailors. The Indians are the wilder of the groups because of their way of life that is so different from the Puritan way of life. Dimmesdale has a choice of living in an Indian village or going across the ocean to Europe with the sailors. Hester and Dimmesdale's choice, no matter which one, will be against Puritan ways so they are yet again committing a sin.
ReplyDeleteHawthorne describes the two "barbarian" groups as the sailors and the indians. Due to their strange and elaborate lifestyles, the indians are described as the more "wild" group.Dimmesdale and Hester have the choice to stay on land and escape Boston or go across the ocean and live in Europe. The indians and sailors represent these two choices. No matter what path they choose to take, they will be going against the Puritan ways and will be condemned by society.
ReplyDeletethe two "barbarian groups" mentioned by Hawthorne are the Sailors and the Indians. The wilder group amongst the two is the Indians as they have different cultural values and look and act differently than acceptable Puritan Socitey. The sailors more closely resemble Puritan ways. Dimmesdale has a choice of living in an Indian village or going with the Sailors to Europe as both are against Puritan values as they are running away from their sin.
ReplyDeleteThe two "barbarian" groups Hawthorne describes are sailors and Indians. He states that the "wilder" group is the Indians. These two groups represent the choices Dimmesdale has before him. The decision that Hester and Dimmesdale make are not of the Puritan way because they are avoiding the consequence of their sin.
ReplyDeleteThe two "barbarians" are the Indians and the Sailors. The indians are considered the wilder of the two because of there living style and clothing. Dimmesdale had the choice to either run away and go live with an indian village or to sail away on a ship with the sailors. Either way he is still running away from his mistakes and completely avoiding them. The decision him and Hester make are wring because it is not a way the Puritans should go because they are just avoiding the fact that they have sinned and there are consequences.
ReplyDeleteThe two "barbarian" groups are the Indians and the Sailors. The Indians are considered wilder since the sailors are closer to the Puritan civilization. What Dimmesdale did was not Puritan-like, therefore there is an apparent link between the Indians and Dimmesdale as both of them did not entirely follow the Puritan laws. The fact that Hester and Dimmesdale are moving away from trouble is similiar to the Indian westward expansion and therefore against the Puritan lifestyle. A Puritan would have stayed and faced his own problems.
ReplyDeleteThe two groups are the Native Americans and sailors. The wilder group would be the sailors because of their savageness and clothing. Hester and Dimmesdale go against their puritan ways and act like the sailors did going against their ways and acting like the Native Americans.
ReplyDeleteThe two groups he is speaking about are the native americans and sailors. The wilder group would be the native americans because they live such different lives then the puritans. Dimmesdales decision makes him more like the indians because he hasn't lived according the puritan law he has broken it.
ReplyDeleteThe two groups are sailors & native americans. The native americans are described as "wilder" in the group. Dimmesdale resembles the native americans because of he doesnt obey the puritan laws.
ReplyDeleteThe two groups which are described as "barbarians" are the Indians and Sailors. However, the Indians are described as more wild than the sailors due to their clothing and behavior. These two groups represent the choices Dimmesdale has before him. He can choose to run away from the Puritans by escaping to an indian villiage or sail across the sea with Sailors to Europe. The choice that the couple has made is completly against Puritan morals.
ReplyDeleteThe two groups are the Indians and the Sailors. The wilder group are the Indians because of the clothing they wear and their behavior. Dimmesdale has the choice to either run away or go to Europe. These choices are "wild" because it is going against the Puritan way of life.
ReplyDeleteThe two are the Indians and Sailors. The wildest group seems to be Indians because of their appearance and attitude. To leave town or run for his life has Dimmesdale skeptical which are contradicting to Puritan lifestyle.
ReplyDeleteThe two groups are the native americans and sailors. The wilder of the two groups, by the simple principle that they are not conventional in dress or behaviour is the group of native americans. It goes against there puritan rules and beliefs
ReplyDeleteThe two groups were the Native Americans and the Sailors. The native americans were the "wilder" of the two. The relationship is similar to the ones Dimmesdale has because he hides his sins from the town and Chillingsworth just as the indians hide in the village. Native Americans aren't known to follow the Puritan way of life, nor is Dimmesdale. This says that Dimmesdale and Hester's choice is going against the Puritan values. This shows the two sinning together again.
ReplyDeleteThe two groups are the native americans and sailors. The native americans were the wilder ones.
ReplyDeleteThe two groups are the Sailors and the Native Americans. The Native Americans are considered wilder because they live off more the land and don’t depend on each other as much. By Hester and Dimmesdale choosing to go with the Sailors it shows that they want to play it safe, that they just want to escape the treatment that they have been dealing with, not create any more problems, and they just want to move on.
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